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12:04 AdrianusV : it's showtime :)
12:05 jbergquist : hi, I new and need an update on phoenix
12:05 Timothy_Reed : Recording on?
12:06 Zvezdichko : if Doug is ready... Ihave several questions
12:06 Manu75 : QUESTION: On Phoenix's’sunrise
photo' there are 1 or 2 faint
specks on the left side: planets? Earth?
12:07 djellison : Hit me ( although one with a link isn't really going to work
live )
12:07 Timothy_Reed : QUESTION: Does the Phoenix Team have to do anything special
now to avoid scooping up newly formed frost when getting TEGA samples? (Since
subsurface ice is of more interest.)
12:08 MeteorWayne : Previously posted questions before you got here. Any idea
why ESA is being so accomodating in releasing Steins data so quickly since it
usually takes many months, or manymany months. Emily said I should repost the
questions.
12:08 loonyman : QUESTION does the depth of the latest tega sample at phoenix
bode better for detecting organics? (should there be any there?)
12:09 MeteorWayne : #2 Any idea when the Phoenix Team will hold another news
conference? We, the curious, are waiting for more results...
12:09 loonyman : I suppose they are working there asses off right now
12:09 AdrianusV : Meteorwayne, such long periods of waiting were in the eighties,
with the Giotto-mission. Nowadays all data are very fast.
12:10 Zvezdichko : QUESTION: Do you have any confirmation whether Phoenix will
be extended after September?
12:10 MeteorWayne : AdrianusV...that is most certainly not true. I recall results
released over a year after data collection. Can't dig up the references now,
watching Emily.
12:11 djellison : Results are not the same as releasing data
12:11 djellison : Science missions have always released results of some sort
in a science journal within a year or so.
12:11 loonyman : AdrianusV, have you seen the ESA website, its a matter of months
b4 they release anything on there as a rule
12:12 MeteorWayne : True, but again without the refences, I can't delve into
it now.
12:12 AdrianusV : raw data are released almost immedeately
12:12 Zvezdichko : it's a slow process, you write the article, then peer-review
12:12 djellison : Adrianus - with ESA - that's not true ( apart from the VMC
on MEX )
12:12 ugordan : Which ESA raw data is released immediately?
12:13 loonyman : hi big bob , how the midlands tonite.. cold and windy here in
Sweden..
12:13 AdrianusV : eh.... agree, ESA is slower than NASA
12:13 MeteorWayne : Believe me, I understand the process, and fully support taking
your time for full analysis.
12:13 Zvezdichko : QUESTION: What is the minimum power needed for Phoenix to
function? I mean- most basic functions, keeping the spacecraft warm and transmitting
telemetry?
12:13 Zvezdichko : amount*
12:13 BigBobUK : loonyman - cooling, raining hard
12:14 djellison : Very windy in Leics right now.
12:15 loonyman : wind wind everywhere :-/
12:15 jbergquist : What is the mechanism which produced the polygonal cells?
12:15 Zvezdichko : QUESTION: Any news on Chang'e and Kaguya? No news in the last
few months
12:15 AdrianusV : jbergquist, start with 'QUESTION '
12:16 ugordan : I thought the frost was CO2?
12:16 jbergquist : QUESTION: What is the mechanism which produced the polygonal
cells?
12:16 Timothy_Reed : ugordan> Nope. The last coupe sols have seen water frost.
12:17 Timothy_Reed : Not yet cold enough for CO2.
12:17 Zvezdichko : QUESTION: We know that Phoenix is observing some frost. Does
the spacecraft any chance to see the formation of CO2 frost and the north polar
cap as a whole?
12:17 MirCat : QUESTION: How do you feel about manned launches going back to
rockets and parachutes? And does this have anything to do with future Moon landings
(and other landings) due to horizontal landings/take offs not feasible?
12:18 ridingwrobots : QUESTION: is there any recent discussion about further
science results from the recent Enceladus fly-by? or do we have to wait for scientific
papers at this point?
12:18 djellison : Not sure what you're going for there MirCar - landing on Earth
and Landing on the Moon are VERY different
12:19 MirCat : djellison, well a shuttle can't take off from the moon, what Im
thinking anyway
12:19 loonyman : QUESTION could the perclorite have explained the results from
the viking experiments?
12:19 Timothy_Reed : RELATED QUESTION: What’s the plan for observations
for the October 25-km height Enceladus flyby?
12:19 dougwestherts : Q 800 K closest approach seems a long distance away to
me, how good a resolution can the camera aimed at steins get?
12:19 djellison : Orion wont land on the moon.
12:19 Zvezdichko : MirCat: The aerodynamic characteristics don't allow the shuttle
to travel to the moon
12:19 Zvezdichko : Doug is right... Altair will land on the moon
12:19 MeteorWayne : QUESTION- (Now with caps) Any idea why ESA is being so accomodating
in releasing images so quickly? Usually it seems to take a long time (months)
12:20 ugordan : dougwestherts: IIRC we'll get about 130 pixels max
12:20 djellison : You Q is in the Queu Wayne.
12:20 AdrianusV : QUESTION: Rosetta had a speed of 8.26 km/s during flyby. Will
it use the technique of skeet-shooting?
12:20 MeteorWayne : QUSESTION Any clue when the Phoenix Team will hold another
news conference? We are very curious...
12:20 AdrianusV : 'has' a speed...., sorry
12:20 djellison : Wayne - you've asked that already
12:20 djellison : Have some patience
12:21 dougwestherts : thanks ugordan
12:21 loonyman : QUESTION, its all gone very quiet over at cassini, and inside
news on the results from the last flyby of enceladus?
12:21 MeteorWayne : Yes, but I didn't have the QUESTION in caps. Just wanted
to make sure you didn't miss it.
12:21 MeteorWayne : I am patient :)
12:22 Zvezdichko : too sad... very laggy here, I couldn't hear the anser of my
question. hope that Emily will record that video
12:22 MeteorWayne : Sorry, I missed your post that it was in the queue. Not makin
trouble here...
12:23 AdrianusV : I've got no problems here (Holland)
12:23 jbergquist : QUESTION: Does frost heaving produce polygonal cells too?
12:23 Jakel : things are kind of laggy here too...
12:24 ugordan : It would be so cool for it to survive, but it would also be a
miracle
12:24 djellison : I think we've moved on from Polygons this time around.
12:24 MirCat : lazarus mode? Don't these people watch any scifi? Anything that
has the name lazarus turns out badly. Much yelling and screaming and hurting.
:)
12:25 AdrianusV : Lazarus was raised from death, wasn't it?
12:25 MirCat : Yeah, he was
12:25 Matt : Whoa, this is pretty sweet.
12:25 Jakel : that's the story
12:25 Timothy_Reed : QUESTION: We know that the Phoenix Team reconfigured the
mass spectrometer to look for chlorine after the perchlorate assumed discovery.
Any other changes for what they're looking for?
12:26 Matt : Emily, email me at Matt@ustream.tv
12:26 AdrianusV : now?
12:26 loonyman : you cant fix stupid...
12:26 Timothy_Reed : MirCat> Worried about Mars Zombies? :)
12:27 djellison : Tim - we sort of did Perchlorates to death a few weeks ago.
12:27 Jakel : alien cyborg zombies... from mars.
12:27 MirCat : Timothy, or Landers that come back to Earth. Zombie robots
12:28 Timothy_Reed : djellison> Not interested in perchlorates, but what other
changes were made to the data the mass spectrometer may be looking for.
12:28 MirCat : kewlness
12:29 ronjones : Question: Now that Opportunity is out of Victoria, have specific
plans been announced for what's next?
12:29 djellison : Questions now moving on to Non-Phoenix.
12:30 AdrianusV : OK, Rosetta :)
12:30 loonyman : cassini,,
12:30 loonyman : :-p
12:30 Timothy_Reed : Had one more: QUESTION: How often is the Phoenix LIDAR used?
Daily? Weekly? Once in a while? I’ve only ever seen two data plots from
it.
12:31 djellison : Sorry Tim - too late. Try and get in earlier next time around
12:33 Manu75 : Too bad. Someone else has seen these planets on the 'sunrise'
shot, or I have to wipe my screen?
12:33 loonyman : QUESTION, I recall that cassini detected organics on the last
but 1 fly by, will the analysis be any more specific as the next flyby is much
closer?
12:34 BigBobUK : QUESTION: How is Messenger getting on preparing for the second
pass of Mercury and how will the second pass differ from the first?
12:34 djellison : They're not planets Manu - nothing would be that close to the
sun
12:34 AdrianusV : 9 october there's another flyby: 25 km from Enceladus :)
12:34 Manu75 : Thanks!
12:34 Zvezdichko : oh, am I too late...
12:35 ugordan : I wonder if CIRS will show a further temperature high record
or just confirm the current max seen
12:36 djellison : Wayne - your ESA question about release - is that for the Steins
flyby?
12:36 MeteorWayne : Yes indeed!
12:38 Funkopolis : They're using ustream... it doesn't record cohosts!
12:38 AdrianusV : yep, emily told us
12:38 jbergquist : Cooling might produce particles.
12:40 Funkopolis : QUESTION: Is there any chance of getting good science out
of the mars webcam, or is it just a publicity stunt?
12:40 AdrianusV : Now I support president Sarkozy (France) attempt to model ESA
to NASA
12:41 ugordan : A publicity stunt? It's actually a pretty cool thing if you ask
me.
12:42 Funkopolis : Well, maybenot a 'stunt', maybe 'pure outreach'? I dunno.
Point is, is the resolution enough to be useful for anything more than cool.
Which I agree it is.
12:42 MeteorWayne : Excellent answer to my ESA question, as usual. Thanx Emily!!!!!
12:42 djellison : I can't imagine it trumping MARCI on MRO for science.
12:42 djellison : BUt possibly phenomena at the terminator
12:43 djellison : But it breaks the cool-o-meter
12:43 Zvezdichko : QUESTION: What about BepiColombo? Is the project still alive?
What is unique about this mission compared to MESSENGER? They cancelled the Lander
part ...
12:43 Funkopolis : Are there any Earth-webcams?
12:44 MirCat : Funk, Emily's on one now
12:44 djellison : I think he means from space :)
12:44 ugordan : lol
12:44 MirCat : I know :P
12:44 djellison : Geostationary satellites downlink VERY quickly ( www.eumetsat.de
for meteosat in europe )
12:44 AdrianusV : yep, they're called weather satellites
12:44 Funkopolis : Either that, or emily's brain _is_ planet size. That's no
backdrop, it's a window!
12:44 djellison : And the MODIS instruments on Aqua and Terra
12:45 Zvezdichko : QUESTION: Is Juno going to make detailed observations of the
icy moons of Jupiter? I found nothing on web about this
12:46 ugordan : Juno, now there's a mission also slated to carry essentially
a "webcam"
12:46 loonyman : i think juno is a bargin basement probe with no good cameras
12:46 AdrianusV : QUESTION: Rosetta will have a speed of 8.26 km/s during flyby.
Will it use the technique of skeet-shooting, just like Cassini used?
12:46 loonyman : but it seems such a waste
12:46 djellison : Adrianus - I covered that in the last question, it's been answered.
12:46 ugordan : Adrianus, EMily pretty much answered that
12:46 MeteorWayne : Every Asteroid we visit close up adds to our very small database.
So the Steins visit is a very good thing.
12:46 Zvezdichko : Lunar Prospector also didn't have good cameras but did a good
science
12:47 Zvezdichko : id didn't have any
12:47 ugordan : It's going to do a fast slew maneuver
12:47 AdrianusV : oops, sorry!
12:47 ugordan : So pretty much like a "skeet shoot"
12:47 loonyman : but the pix are essentiel for
12:47 ugordan : except it will be able to actually track the asteroid
12:47 loonyman : PR
12:48 loonyman : sorry, essentiel for PR and engaging the public
12:48 MirCat : especially if it catches an alien peeking out from behind a rock
12:48 Funkopolis : Like most internet webcams, it's only fun when you send a
friend to go there and wave
12:48 djellison : Right - the Juno one is the last one :)
12:49 tiffmich_2000 : QUESTION: Any news on using the Mars microphone?
12:49 BigBobUK : QUESTION: How is Messenger getting on preparing for the second
pass of Mercury and how will the second pass differ from the first?
12:50 ugordan : QUESTION: Which outer planet flagship are you betting on - Titan
or Europa. Personal preference aside :D
12:50 loonyman : QUESTION how is the mood over at NASA with the elections looming,
is it optimistic as both candidates have given positive space exploration statements?
12:50 AdrianusV : both problably have an ocean
12:50 BigBobUK : ?
12:50 ugordan : *sigh*
12:51 djellison : Tiff - if there's any new - that'll get blogged very quickly.
Bob - I think that can wait for a cast closer to the next flyby (not much info
yet) UG - you <censored> :) Loonyman : You should have watched last week
12:51 jbergquist : QUESTION: Will the Gravity Probe B analysis be continued?
12:51 loonyman : :-(
12:51 Manu75 : Thanks, bye!
12:51 AdrianusV : Emily Thanx
12:51 loonyman : Thanks a million Emily
12:51 Funkopolis : Thanks agains Emily
12:51 Boggratt : Thank you Emily
12:51 Zvezdichko : Many thanks, Emily :)
12:51 MirCat : I'd write down you're questions and past em next time :)
12:51 MeteorWayne : Thanx Emily, you're the best.
12:51 jbergquist : great job emily. bye
12:51 imabug : great show
12:51 MirCat : Bye Emily, thanks for another great webcast
12:51 PHILIP67 : bye from uk
12:51 ridingwrobots : valuable as always
12:51 BigBobUK : Thanks Emily
12:51 ugordan : that was fast
12:51 dougwestherts : many thanks Emily
12:53 tiffmich_2000 : Thanks Emily... (and Doug).
12:53 redmoon : @Zvezdichko BepiColombo is alive. Start is planned for August
2013.
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